I feel the need to draw attention again to the following videos. These aren’t meant to be watched just once. It requires a shift in the way we think. Surviving police encounters—and knowing your rights and behaviorally asserting them as safely as possible—seems to be a bit like learning how to drive. You must first practice many times before you are able to drive without actually thinking about driving. Hopefully, by recalling these facts and scenarios, we as citizens will learn how to stay safer to a point where it becomes second nature. That’s why it’s so important to review these videos now and then.
It’s not enough to simply know these things. If we don’t incorporate them into our lives as good and safe habits, then knowing them doesn’t really do a whole lot of good, now does it?
There’s only one thing that the professor says that I disagree with. The rest of it is completely spot on. Those who know me probably wouldn’t find it hard to figure out which part I disagree with. (If you must know, it’s the part where he says that cops aren’t likely to lie on you! But that’s not pertinent. I am just being picky. I do think he’s dead wrong on that, though.)
Law professor and a police officer reveal why you should never talk to police.
Good stuff… I like this particular video for educating the public on how to deal with the police.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8
@ JB:
Why? For the “humor”? If so, I didn’t find it funny. And I love humor. Or are you trying to make a serious point?
BTW I did take your advice and watched “Fahrenhype”. It sucked. Clearly, you and I don’t have the same tastes.
How not to get your ass kicked by the police:
1. Don’t be a minority
2. Beg, grovel
3. Waive all of your rights
4. Spread your cheeks real wide
This moronic Chris Rock video gives people the impression that police only beat down people who represent a threat to their person, and it also gives the impression that if you break a law, it’s OKAY for them to pummel you even though their job is to arrest you and charge you with crimes, not enact whatever punishment comes into their little brain. Is it OK for a policeman to break your bones if they don’t like your taste in music?
Also amusing that so many find police brutality FUNNY in our brain-dead, redneck yokel society. JB, I sincerely hope you never find yourself on the wrong end of a Taser or police baton, but it would have the fortunate side-effect of you possibly learning something about police brutality.
null@ Polly:
Heya Polly, yeah I meant for the humor. It was a skit, meant to be funny, it is a satire on Police officers and young foolish black men. No way do I think Chris Rock mentions or is seriously insinuating that the police have the right to beat your ass. It was just there as an exageration to emphasize the point that you could avoid some issues with LE by using common sense.
But I guess we could take this serious. I have been arrested on a few occasions Noble, also have dealt with and worked with the police during search and rescue and while working security. I lived with a Law Enforcement officer for 2 years, and have done Judo with a group of several of them for years. While working security I interacted with them pretty much on a nightly basis. I have gone to a local Citizens academy and ridden along with patrol units and K9 units, and happen to have a few solid friends in Law Enforcement. I have ridden the lightning so to say, though I did it voluntarily and getting tazed does suck. I trained with Roy Bedard who is the leading expert and inventor of the rapid rotating battle baton.. I have been on the wrong end of it on many occasion, though without malice. I have also been pepper sprayed, and gotten the joy of CS gas.
Like anything else there are some guys out there who do not deserve to have a badge, but they happen to be the minority. The majority of Law Enforcement officers generally aren’t out to beat someone down or randomly tazer people. (The paperwork they have to go through if they even deploy their tazers in most departments keep many officers from using them even when it could be helpful) 90% of Departments out there treat using your tazer the same as using a gun, as far as the level of investigative review. Most officers are by the book through and through, and are generally reasonable guys. Keep in mind they are in a dangerous position every single day, and yes in reality a good way to help prevent getting your ass kicked by the police is just don’t do anything that can be deemed threatening, and be a human to them. They are human… they can get pissed off and make bad decisions too. And yes, sometimes there are just some bad apples out there that are fucktards. That is where citizens complaints and Internal Affairs can come in. Yes it takes times, and yes there are victims and it doesn’t make it right, it never is right. But there are far more officers out there not using violence even when their use of force contiuums provide them the opportunity, then there are guys who are abusing the badge.
I don’t find police brutality humorous, nor any violence. But I also can not take myself serious enough to see the humor in what Chris Rock was saying, especially if you understand that culture.
I have never been on the receiving end of police brutality, mainly because I try to steer clear any situations in which I would have to deal with the police. When I did work with them, I found the vast majority to be highly professional upstanding guys who did their best to de-escalate situations, and not fly into violence at the drop of the hat. Again, I find simple compliance usually does wonders and can get you out of trouble instead of obstinance. I agree totally with the videos (or at least the ideas of them) in Polly’s post as far as thoroughly understanding the laws and your rights. At the end of the day they are doing a job, a shitty, thankless underpaid job. 70% of their job is just being mediators between two or more inflammed parties. I would highly suggest doing a citizens academy or doing a few ride alongs with your local Law Enforcement agencies to open your eyes about the day to day life of LE personell. And realizing that the minority of total fuck ups (who do get weeded out eventually) aren’t representative of the whole.
Polly, I don’t think you got the Farenhype advice from me. I have never seen it, so I wouldn’t reccomend it one way or another. I have never seen Farenheit either though. But I think you have me confused with someone else about the Farenhype reccomendation.
@ JB:
Heya Polly, yeah I meant for the humor. It was a skit, meant to be funny—
Uh huh. Gee, I wonder why I don’t believe that.
But I guess we could take this serious.
It shouldn’t have taken me calling you out to actually do that. Don’t make points under the guise of humor. It’s dishonest and insulting.
Like anything else there are some guys out there who do not deserve to have a badge, but they happen to be the minority.
Huh?
The majority of Law Enforcement officers generally aren’t out to beat someone down or randomly tazer people. (The paperwork they have to go through if they even deploy their tazers in most departments keep many officers from using them even when it could be helpful) 90% of Departments out there treat using your tazer the same as using a gun, as far as the level of investigative review.
Apparently you missed out on some recent news. Some police use identical wordings in all their reports. And the paperwork isn’t that bad, what they really neglect is the VICAP paperwork, you know the life saving stuff. But I digress. I’m not really known for my high tolerance for bullshit, JB, and I’m not interested in this “poor police officers” testimonial.
Most officers are by the book through and through, and are generally reasonable guys.
You don’t know most officers.
And yes, sometimes there are just some bad apples out there that are fucktards. That is where citizens complaints… …come in.
What a coincidence. You ask, and I’m here: a citizen, and I’m making a complaint.
Yes it takes times, and yes there are victims and it doesn’t make it right, it never is right. But there are far more officers out there not using violence even when their use of force contiuums provide them the opportunity, then there are guys who are abusing the badge.
I don’t care. That there are more or less or equal amount of officers doing good instead of evil, is not relevant. Nor does it make false the notion that police brutality exists and it is widespread.
don’t find police brutality humorous, nor any violence. But I also can not take myself serious enough to see the humor in what Chris Rock was saying, especially if you understand that culture.
And you’ve got your finger on the pulse of that culture, do you?
I have never been on the receiving end of police brutality, mainly because I try to steer clear any situations in which I would have to deal with the police.
Are you saying that victims of police brutality could avoid it easily? Are you really going to blame the victims here? Oh, nevermind, you just did. In a very passive-aggressive sort of way.
When I did work with them, I found the vast majority to be highly professional upstanding guys who did their best to de-escalate situations, and not fly into violence at the drop of the hat.
You’re not the only one in the world who’s “worked with” or been around LEOs. I come from a family of LEOs and my experience was entirely different. So what?
I agree totally with the videos (or at least the ideas of them) in Polly’s post as far as thoroughly understanding the laws and your rights. At the end of the day they are doing a job, a shitty, thankless underpaid job. 70% of their job is just being mediators between two or more inflammed parties. I would highly suggest doing a citizens academy or doing a few ride alongs with your local Law Enforcement agencies to open your eyes about the day to day life of LE personell.
If it’s not clear by now, I think you’re passive-aggressive and arrogant. Keep it off my blog.